Posts by John Aquila

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Is the end of Watchtowers hated No Blood doctrine in sight?

by nicolaou in

i won't pretend to know things that i don't but just look at the incredible rate of change we've witnessed recently.

it seems that since candace conti and the australian royal commission the watchtower are scrabbling around to shore up their finances in the face of unprecedented legal action against them.. abuse settlement claims are one thing but what happens when children die as a result of your religious teachings?!

you can bet wt legal are arguing for a complete rewrite of policy to protect the organisation from litigation.. do you think their religious privilege will protect them forever?

John Aquila

They will "Never" come out and change it in a straight forward manner. They will put some type of spin to it. For example they might say;

A blood transfusion is acceptable if the Blood has been fractionated in a sterilized container to recognize its use as something holy to Jehovah. If such is the case, then the conscience of some--- might allow them to accept a blood transfusion with the understanding that blood belongs to Jehovah and just like the Israelites shared a burnt offering with the priest, a dedicated member will share the blood sacrifice with the Great High Priest, Jesus.

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My mom passed away yesterday....

by minimus in

jw
friends

thank you all for your sincere encouragement during these last few weeks.

finally, she is at peace.

i was with her , holding her hand when she died.

John Aquila

My condolences, sorry for your loss.

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If you were ‘God’, what would you do?

by JWchange in

this post is not meant to be blasphemous to non-atheists on this forum , just philosophical.

i refer to a god rather than the creator.

it;s 10,000 years in the future and you are a phd student with a brain the size of a planet, that has incredible technology at your fingertips to create life, similar to humans living today or better, intelligently and physically.

John Aquila

Finkelstein
They were also created to give specific power and prominence over select individuals (ie.Hebrews) who were said to be connecting seers to these supernatural beings.

The other reasons are tolerable, but this one just pisses me off.

If I were God I would appear at set times to hear to resolve any problems that humanity had to deal with, stop animals from killing one anther for food and made sure all beer and pizza were free.

Where do I sign for worship.

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If you were ‘God’, what would you do?

by JWchange in

this post is not meant to be blasphemous to non-atheists on this forum , just philosophical.

i refer to a god rather than the creator.

it;s 10,000 years in the future and you are a phd student with a brain the size of a planet, that has incredible technology at your fingertips to create life, similar to humans living today or better, intelligently and physically.

John Aquila

Hmmmn, which one of those best describes the biblical god?

If you were a cruel "god" you would torture them for your twisted entertainment.

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All 144,000 are on earth while the Great Multitude is in heaven

by Doug Mason in

why do the 144,000 need sealing?.

what does it mean that the angels hold back the winds so that the sealing can take place?.

where is the great multitude?.

John Aquila

Thanks Jan, I didn't know that.

Doug Mason; No, it was not Paul who said women could not teach. That was written by a misogynist at the end of the first century who pretended to be Paul.

So I guess what your saying Doug is that although Paul wrote 1 Timothy, someone else inserted these words into Paul's letter;

1 Tim 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

That wouldn't be far-fetch since the WT has inserted Jehovah into the NT about 300 time I believe.

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All 144,000 are on earth while the Great Multitude is in heaven

by Doug Mason in

why do the 144,000 need sealing?.

what does it mean that the angels hold back the winds so that the sealing can take place?.

where is the great multitude?.

John Aquila

Hey Doug, what was the deal with women back then in the Jewish nation? Why was having sex with women a bad thing. The other nations didn't have a problem with it. The whole Bible seems to either blame women-EVE, see them as unclean - Babylon the harlot, and they couldn't even teach according to Paul.

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EITHER or NEITHER or BOTH? FORGIVENESS vs ATONEMENT

by Terry in

on (new testament scholar) bart ehrman's blog, the topic of luke's view of the purpose of jesus'.

death has been discussed.. in that discussion, ehrman points out how luke did not set forth the idea of atonement, rather luke set forth the idea of forgiveness.. on the other hand, mark and paul teach atonement.. these two points of view have been "mashed together" into a package deal, apparently, throughout history by theologians.. _________________________.

someone pays a debt owed by another.

John Aquila

I could never wrap around the idea of forgiveness. Forgiveness for what, what did I do??

Atonement = pay my debt. I never borrowed anything from God.

But your right, I always noticed that Luke talks about a preaching work that is different from the preaching work that Matthew talks about.

(Luke 24:47) . . .and on the basis of his name repentance for forgiveness of sins would be preached in all the nations. . .

(Matthew 24:14) 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; . . .

Luke preaches forgiveness while Matthew preaches the Kingdom.

Paul was good at tying in the sacrifices of Jewish Law with the death of Jesus and Mark evidently adopted Paul's views since they hung around quit a bit.

(Acts 12:25) . . .As for Bar′na·bas and Saul, after having fully carried out the relief ministration in Jerusalem, they returned and took along with them John, the one surnamed Mark.

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Call For Children To Get Baptised From CO

by freemindfade in

so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.

yesterday i went for the co's last talks.

older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.

John Aquila

Well at one one point he mentioned how he was Baptised at 11.

That explains a lot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPFmFHr1W9M

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Who Qualifies for TTATT?

by John Aquila in

when i first learn ttatt i started telling every one.

ttatt will not help him, it will destroy him.

all his family are jws.

John Aquila

Diogenesister
This is what kills me about loosing my faith, the pain of knowing the universe is profoundly indifferent to us, faced with such suffering

Yea, ,me to!

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OF DOGS AND BITES AND BIKES AND THINGS

by Terry in

the thought suddenly struck me plain and obvious: "these dogs won't stop until i'm good and bloody.".

there were two of them; a mixed breed of boxer and pit bull; clean, white--collared, tagged and--for some inexplicable reason, ferociously intent on tearing me to shreds!.

ah, but i'm getting ahead of myself.

John Aquila

Terry, that is an awful experience. My heart started racing when I was reading your experience. I don't ride a bike but I jog in the early morning in a park. About 4 months ago I was attacked by five dogs that were running loose. This was around 5:30 am and there was no one around to help me. Fortunately I was close to my truck and the door was open, so I escaped. I haven't jogged since because the experience scared the hoots out of me.

But it did get me to thinking since I love jogging in the early morning and I don't want to give it up.But I won't go without protection ever again. I decided to buy a small gun. So I'm saving the money to buy a Glock and carry it with me when I jog. I am going to take a lot of training, get a permit and when I'm ready, hopefully next summer, I'm going jogging again in the early morning.

Let those dogs come.